wx mail list changes

Robin Dunn robin at alldunn.com
Tue Mar 18 22:26:48 PDT 2008


Hi all,

This is just a warning that I will likely be fiddling with the wx mail 
lists over the next couple days, with the ultimate goal of moving the 
lists to a new server and switching to Mailman.  My intent is to have as 
little impact on all of you as possible.  I'll be able to move the 
subscriber lists and archives without too much hassle, and we'll 
continue using the same hostname and list addresses, (although I'll 
probably change the names of the "cvs" lists.)  Hopefully I'll also be 
able to make the current archives available in the old format as well, 
so the existing links to archived messages will still work.

There will likely be some portion of time where the mail lists don't 
work well while the DNS for lists.wxwidgets.org is transfered to the new 
IP address.  Depending on how long the DNS addresses are cached upstream 
from you it could take from a couple hours up to half a day or so for 
the change to propagate.  I'll send a message just before I make the DNS 
change.

Since Mailman makes it much easier than ezmlm for subscribers to manage 
their own subscription and delivery options, I am going to set the lists 
to reject messages from non-subscribers to help cut down on spam.  (The 
server is also running SpamAssassin, and ClamAV.)  For example, if 
somebody wants to read the lists via GMane but still be able to send via 
the mail lists then they can subscribe but turn off the delivery of 
email messages.  (This is the most common reason I've heard from 
subscribers wanting to suspend delivery.)

One thing that I still haven't figured out a solution for is the USENET 
gateway for wx-users <--> comp.soft-sys.wxwindows.  Mailman has good 
support for this, but it needs an NNTP server to post to and read from. 
  Can anybody suggest a site providing open/free NNTP service that could 
be used for the gateway?

Is there any value in loading the old archives of the cvs commit lists? 
  What about archiving future messages?  Since all the same info is 
available via the svn web interfaces I think that it would be worth the 
space savings to not archive them.

Also, even after I've made a couple requests for it the DotSrc people 
still haven't made the archives of wx-discuss available via rsync like 
the other lists.  Does anybody have a complete or mostly compete set of 
messages from wx-discuss that you can send me?  (Preferably in mbox 
format, but with a little scripting I expect I can handle any standard 
format.)

-- 
Robin Dunn
Software Craftsman
http://wxPython.org  Java give you jitters?  Relax with wxPython!





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