20071113 test build uploaded

[Roman Rolinsky]

Hi,

Kevin Ollivier <kevino <at> theolliviers.com> writes:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Some quick notes from testing:
> 
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> - What would really rock is a 5 minute screen cast showing how to use  
> Editra and XRCEd together to create a wxPython Hello World  
> application. Not being familiar with XRCEd myself, I kinda felt my way  
> around it but I would have felt a lot more comfortable with a step-by- 
> step here's what to do sort of thing.

There's now some on-line help, but you're right, a screencast would be more
useful for first-comers.

> 
> XRCEd:
> 
> - Really like the new XRCEd control browser. As a Mac user, though, I  
> instantly tried to drag and drop controls into the treeview (and later  
> the live preview)...  Any way we can get that, at least the former,  
> to work? (Of course, I've had my problems with DnD and treeviews in  
> the past....)

I'll look into it. DnD into the preview should work already. Make sure you have
Auto-refresh turned on.

> - Also, the nice toolbar icons and Control browser icons causes some  
> contrast with the old-style treeview icons. IMHO it'd be great if we  
> could use the screenshot-like icons for those too.

I agree it's better to change the icons, but it is probably difficult using
their current size (16x16). Do you think we should sacrifice the number of tree
items visible simultaneously when we increase the icons to 24x24 for example (or
what size is the best for them)?

> - It'd also be nice if clicking on checkboxes, etc. caused immediate  
> changes in the preview. It seems changes are reflected only when you  
> switch tabs, but being able to make a change and see it's effect  
> immediately helps people explore the various options.

You can force the update using Control+R (Refresh). I'll try to add an option to
auto-refresh after each focus change in the attribute panel (or check/uncheck).
In the past I've had some problems with focus going away from the current window
when the preview is refreshed for a top-level window, as it causes it to be
deleted and re-created. Is there a way to remember which top-level window has
the focus?

> - Any reason the icons couldn't be 32x32 on Mac?  IMHO that size  
> looks better on Mac than 24x24.

No problem to put both versions of the tango icons. I just have to re-create
xrced-specific icons, I think I have them in higher resolution somewhere.

> - BTW, deleting the only frame in a document leads to a crash. It  
> probably wasn't a smart thing to do, but IMHO it shouldn't crash. 

Fixed (crash when deleting with active preview).

> - It might be worth looking at Editra's approach to error handling. I  
> got an "Error when creating Python module" when running "Generate  
> Python" but it didn't give me any details. Editra in these cases will  
> put together a traceback and system info, then prompt to send a bug  
> report. Just seeing the traceback would be helpful for me to know what  
> is going on.

Detailed exception info is currently printed in the terminal. I'll look at the
Editra way.

> - Lastly, since you have to create some sort of frame/dialog to start  
> working with XRCEd, I think it'd be nice if, when you create a new  
> file, it asks you if you want to create a new dialog/frame/wizard/etc.

Good idea.


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> 
> Kevin
> 
> On Nov 14, 2007, at 1:46 AM, R'bot wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > A new test build of wxPython has been uploaded.
> >
> >   Version: 2.8.7.0.20071113
> >   URL:     http://wxPython.wxcommunity.com/preview/20071113
> >   Changes: http://wxPython.wxcommunity.com/preview/20071113/CHANGES.html
> >
> > Have fun!
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Regards,

Roman