[wxPython-dev] new project hosting provider... me?

[Peter Damoc]

Hi Robin,

I'm having some issues writing this email because I don't know if what I'm
about to say is out of place... :) BUT... here it is anyway.

15$/month is only 180$/year... this is not "BIG Money", not enough in my
mind to warrant a donation campaign.
The benefits you listed are great and the first thing that popped into
my mind was...
Why don't you do it yourself out of your own money?
I'm not talking about reaching into your family budget but something more
into the lines of working a couple of hours *per year* in a wxpython
consultancy kind of thing. Either provide some help for a company that's
using wxPython or spend the time
researching something related to the future of wxPython (feature request).

I'm sure there are a lot of people out there willing to pay for your time.
I for one am willing to sponsor one year of this
hosting supplement in return for some research
work. I also believe that I am only one of many and that my resources
are rather limited ($180 would be a month's pay for a lot of people in
my country)
others would probably be willing to pay more.

I hope I wasn't out of line.

Best regards,
Peter.


On 5/26/07, Robin Dunn <robin at alldunn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for cross-posting, but I wanted to make sure that everybody in the
> community sees this message.  Please send follow ups to the wx-discuss
> list.
>
> Over the past few months I've become increasingly dissatisfied with
> dotsrc.org as a project hosting provider.  We currently have CVS and the
> mail lists there, but I've never moved anything else to their servers
> because they still haven't convinced me that it would be worth the
> effort, even when sourceforge was having serious reliability troubles.
> Lately they have been taking longer and longer to respond to support
> requests, (one request a couple months ago sat there for almost two
> weeks until one of us gave them step-by-step instructions on how to do
> it) and they still haven't started officially supporting subversion,
> something they have saying for years now will be "ready soon."
>
> I looked at a number of free alternatives, but they all boil down to the
> same problem - those services that do offer reliable service are
> typically slow (like SF.net), or there's some catch involved (Google
> Code's license restrictions).  So, I started thinking about using my own
> server instead, which has been very snappy and reliable. (It's currently
> hosting http://wxpython.org and http://wiki.wxpython.org, and is located
> at a colocation facility with tier-1 connectivity.)  The issue with this
> idea is that hosting the wxWidgets SVN repository (and perhaps
> eventually the mail lists and web site too) would probably take up a
> fair amount of the resources on my host, and to be on the safe side I
> should probably upgrade my hosting plan, which will cost about an extra
> $15/month.
>
> Which brings me to my question for the community.  How many of you feel
> that it'd be worth donating a few bucks to get, among other things,
> faster source code checkouts and SVN support? (Finally!)  If we also
> move the mail lists and archives then we can switch back to Mailman and
> dump *@^$# ezmlm.
>
> I'd be interested in whether you are willing, and also what amount you
> would feel comfortable in donating.  Ideally it should be an amount that
> doesn't hurt, there should be enough people donating that everybody
> could contribute just the cost of a few lattes and we would have plenty
> and some to spare.  No need to think of this request as making a
> commitment yet, I just want to get a gut feel for feasibility.  We can
> also discuss other possible solutions.  BTW, most of what I paid for the
> first year of service at my current level was paid with contributions
> that the wxPython users have made, although none of them knew that's
> what the money was going to be used for.
>
> In the meantime, I'll see if I can do a test run of converting a
> snapshot of the CVS repository and setting up the server, so that we can
> get a better feel for resource utilization and response times.  The last
> time I played with converting from CVS to SVN a couple years ago, I
> remember it taking a few hours, but most of that was scripts crunching
> data.  When it was finished, the SVN repo had over 45K revisions in it.
>   So doing it again will be good practice for the real thing.
>
> --
> Robin Dunn
> Software Craftsman
> http://wxPython.org  Java give you jitters?  Relax with wxPython!
>
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